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{\an8}[sheriff 1] Sheriff's Department.
We need to talk to you a minute.
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We're basically shutting down the gate.
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We're gonna be controlling
who comes and who goes, okay?
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- It's out of your control.
- What is the nature of…
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That's not your business.
We're serving a search warrant.
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[man over comm] 430, can you copy?
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[sheriff 2] Now we're through the gate.
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The subject, I repeat,
the subject is not on property.
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Do you copy?
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[sheriff 1] Here's the bridge
we gotta go over.
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And the house is right there.
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[tense music continues]
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[sheriff 1] You guys see a uniform?
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- [man 1] Hi.
- [sheriff 1] How are you doing?
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Sheriff's Department.
We have a search warrant.
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[tense music continues]
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[man 2 on TV] This is a Fox News alert.
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Police right now
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searching Michael Jackson's
Neverland Ranch in California…
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[woman 2] We are told this is part
of an ongoing investigation.
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[man 3] …alleging criminal misconduct
on the part of Michael Jackson.
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Come this way.
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[indistinct police radio chatter]
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- [sheriff 2] Copy.
- [sheriff 1] Okay.
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And this is Mr. Jackson's main area?
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Sheriff's Department.
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[sheriff 2] Yeah, go ahead.
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[sheriff 1] Whose office is this?
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[woman 1] This is his office.
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[sheriff 1] This is Michael's?
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[woman 1] Mr. Jackson's office.
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[sheriff 2] Are there any secret rooms?
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- [woman 1] Secret rooms?
- [sheriff 2] Yeah.
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Behind a wall or something like that?
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- [woman 1] Just the bathroom.
- [man 1] Only behind doors.
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[sheriff 2] No hidden doors or anything?
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[woman 1] No.
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[man 4] The phone rings, and he says,
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"Brian, the police
are raiding Neverland Ranch."
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{\an8}I go, "What are they doing there,
Mr. Jackson?"
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{\an8}"I don't know. I don't know."
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He says, "Get your leads. Find out."
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Wow.
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Okay.
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[sheriff 2] There could
be something in here.
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[sheriff 1] Somebody needs
to go through it.
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[sheriff 2] Hey, Jeff?
We have an upstairs.
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[Brian] The search warrant indicates
that there is an accusation
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by a 12-year-old boy
who says that he was molested.
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It appears that they think
there's some kind of forensic evidence
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which would be available to them,
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which would include DNA,
hair samples, blood samples.
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We don't know.
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We don't know the identity of the child.
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We don't know the specifics
of the accusations.
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[man 5] When you're investigating
an allegation of child sexual abuse,
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{\an8}you rarely have witnesses to it.
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We're looking for anything
that we could find
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that tell us that this child
is giving us accurate information.
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[crowd clamoring]
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[man 6] He's the most famous man
in the world,
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who's being accused
of the most heinous crime in the world.
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[man 7] An arrest warrant
for Mr. Jackson has been issued
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on multiple counts of child molestation.
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[woman 3] Finally,
we're going to get some answers.
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Is he guilty, or is he not guilty?
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[ominous music playing]
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Hm. Um…
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{\an8}I met Michael Jackson in, uh, 1970.
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He was 12. I was 14.
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- And we became friends.
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- I told you that I love Michael.
- Uh-huh.
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You love Michael.
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[Randy] As a musician, you can see
the genius of Michael Jackson.
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[man 1] On stage since the age of five…
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[woman] Michael Jackson is a superstar.
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[Reagan] …for the outstanding example
you have set for the youth of America…
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[man 2] The album is still number one
after 57 weeks.
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[Randy] Thriller is still, to this day,
the biggest-selling record of all time.
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[man 3] His album Thriller,
the winner of seven Grammy Awards,
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was still selling a million copies a year
15 years after its release.
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[girls screaming]
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[Randy] Without exaggeration,
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I think Michael was
the most famous person in the world.
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All the amazing talent.
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[crowd screaming]
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But then, you know,
you began to see the changes in him.
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[woman] I mean, let's face it,
he's a little weird.
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You know? He's just a little weird.
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[Randy] The media was terrible
to Michael Jackson.
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With all the Wacko Jacko stuff,
which was horrible.
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{\an8}"What's with the hyperbaric chamber?"
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"What's with the plastic surgery?"
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{\an8}And Michael, he felt like
he was lonely and isolated.
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But he was determined
to live his life his way.
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Michael became friends
with all these kids.
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You know, he didn't think it was strange,
but other people did.
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{\an8}A 13-year-old boy alleges a sexual
relationship with Michael Jackson.
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[unsettling music continues]
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The idea of Michael Jackson being
a pedophile was, like, mind-blowing.
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It was the most far-fetched,
ridiculous thing you could have imagined.
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The pop star angrily rejected
accusations he molested a young boy,
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and lashed out at police and the media.
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{\an8}There have been many
disgusting statements made recently
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{\an8}concerning allegations
of improper conduct on my part.
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{\an8}These statements about me
are totally false.
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[Randy] After all these
terrible allegations about Michael,
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he had a hard time not just artistically,
but personally too.
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I saw the hell
that it had inflicted on him.
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He was so traumatized by that time.
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He needed, like, a reset,
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where he could actually tackle
some of these issues
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and his image in the public eye.
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- [music fades]
- [birds singing and chirping]
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[pensive music playing]
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[man] The first time I met Michael,
in London, June 2002…
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his face is very heavily made up.
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{\an8}His hair's kind of messy.
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{\an8}He looks as though
he hadn't slept for very long.
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[speaking indistinctly]
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And it had been some years
since he was the King of Pop.
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And yet, there's nobody comparable
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to the size and magnitude
of a Michael Jackson.
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And the other thing that obviously caused
an enormous amount of interest
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were the scandals that surrounded him
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and allegations of child sexual abuse
some years previously.
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I said, "I'd love to make a film with you
if you were interested."
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He said,
"Okay, come and see me in California."
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[Randy] Talking about it with Michael,
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I came to understand the reason
Michael was interested in Martin Bashir
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was because of his interview
with Princess Diana,
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who was somebody
Michael really kind of idolized.
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[speaking indistinctly]
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[Randy] He wanted to be portrayed
in a more human way
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{\an8}by the guy who did it for Princess Diana.
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{\an8}But Michael didn't do enough research
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because if he had, he would have realized
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that the Martin Bashir/Princess Diana
interview was kind of a disaster.
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{\an8}[Martin] Do you think
Mrs. Parker Bowles was a factor
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{\an8}in the breakdown of your marriage?
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{\an8}Well, there were three of us
in this marriage,
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{\an8}so it was a bit crowded. [laughs sadly]
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{\an8}That was the interview in which
she talked about three in a marriage,
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and it really set her at odds
with the Royal Family,
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and it… it…
it was a public relations disaster.
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But Michael didn't follow the story
all the way to that.
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He just stopped at the point
where he wanted to do it
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because Princess Diana did it.
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Michael trusted Martin Bashir,
and then Martin Bashir,
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he was looking for a great story.
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And Michael sort of handed him
this opportunity on a silver platter.
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We didn't think that Neverland
was going to be the place
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where this whole thing unraveled.
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[ominous music playing]
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[Martin] When I got onto Neverland,
I couldn't believe what I was seeing.
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It was extraordinary.
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There was this Ferris wheel,
a massive fairground.
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And then I rode towards the zoo,
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and I can remember seeing elephants,
giraffes, and a bear.
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I made it clear
that I wanted to understand his life.
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I thought he had
a strange relationship with children.
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There had been allegations before.
There had been settlements.
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Do you come out here on your own?
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- Yeah.
- How often?
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- All the time.
- You just come out on your own?
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- Yes.
- What, and go on a ride?
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Yup.
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Usually the carousel. I'll play music.
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I love playing classical music
on the carousel.
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And what about the Ferris wheel?
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I like the Ferris wheel.
It makes you wish and dream and…
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- [Martin] Can we go on it?
- [Michael] Sure.
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[Martin] Let's go on it.
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When I met him,
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he was increasingly isolated as a figure.
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[pensive music playing]
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There was none of the kind
of lawyers and PR and publicists
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that normally surrounds
a major global superstar.
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He was in control.
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It was his idea
that we film in the dance studio.
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I knew I had to ask him certain questions
that were going to be quite difficult.
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But it was quite intimidating.
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When you're dealing with
someone like Michael Jackson,
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you don't tell him
what you're going to film.
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But if we behaved appropriately,
and if he liked us,
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then things would happen.
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Use your heel to slide back.
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- That is not easy. That is not easy.
- Really?
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- [laughing] That's not easy.
- That's very good, though.
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- That's the idea.
- You're a very kind man.
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I bought these.
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- These. Right?
- [Martin] You got enough space for it all?
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- [Michael] Yeah, I do.
- [Martin] You do?
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[Michael] Yeah, and these we bought.
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Okay, let's have a look at these ones.
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They're beautiful.
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[Martin] That's only 275,000 each.
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I was getting on well with him.
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The filming had gone really well.
He seemed to have enjoyed it.
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Yet I knew
that for this section of the film,
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I actually had to put all of that aside
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and behave as if
I was confronting him for the first time.
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[music turns ominous]
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I had to ask him about the allegations
of child sexual abuse.
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I was anxious
about what was going to happen
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when I put these
difficult questions to him.
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But as we moved towards
the end of the filming,
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he said, "I want you to meet somebody."
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So I said,
"Right, who do you want me to meet?"
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He said, "He's a little boy,
and we've healed him of cancer."
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Michael then gets up and goes out
and brings the child in front of us.
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{\an8}[unsettling music playing]
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{\an8}I think what was
going through his mind was,
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{\an8}"Here's an example
of a child that I've helped."
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"That's what I want you
to put in your film."
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And then Michael volunteers
during the conversation
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that they sleep in the bed together.
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{\an8}Why can't you share your bed?
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{\an8}The most loving thing to do
is to share your bed with someone.
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{\an8}- You know?
- [Martin] You think that?
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{\an8}Yeah.
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[unsettling music continues]
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[scoffs] And we're just utter--
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All of us, the production team,
are completely gobsmacked.
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{\an8}I mean, we can't believe
what's going on in front of us.
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{\an8}But haven't you got a spare room
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{\an8}or a spare house here
where he could have stayed?
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{\an8}Yeah, but no-- Yes, we have guest units.
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{\an8}But whenever kids come here,
they always want to stay with me.
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He'd actually made a disclosure on camera
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about something that had always
been queried around him,
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that people had always suspected
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there's something wrong
about the way he interacts.
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I realized that we had something
that was hugely significant,
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but I didn't realize the extent
of the bombshell until the broadcast.
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{\an8}[orchestral music swelling]
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Michael Jackson's home, Neverland,
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is a 3,000-acre ranch
three hours north of Los Angeles.
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He thought about it, and then he said,
"Yes, come to Neverland."
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What do you think
people would say if I said,
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"Well, I've invited some
of my daughter's friends round,
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or my son's friends,
to sleep in the bed with me tonight?"
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- [Michael] That's fine!
- [Martin] What would their parents say?
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[Michael] If they're wacky,
they would say, "You can't."
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But when you say "bed,"
you're thinking sexual.
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They make that sexual. It's not sexual.
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- [Martin] But…
- We're going to sleep.
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I tuck them in,
I put a little, like, music on,
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do a little story time, I read a book.
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It's very sweet.
Put the fireplace on, give them hot milk.
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You know, we have little cookies.
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- It's very charming, very sweet.
- Are you sure?
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[Randy] I'm watching Michael
on television,
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and there's a moment,
and if you knew him like I did,
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you can see him suddenly calculating
in his head that this is terrible.
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{\an8}He finally said, "Okay, if you love me,
let's sleep on the bed."
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{\an8}I was like, "Oh man."
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{\an8}[Randy] You can see it.
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{\an8}You can look at that moment
in the Martin Bashir documentary,
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and you can actually
pin the end of his life,
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you know, to that very moment.
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[dramatic music playing]
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Did you see that documentary
on Michael Jackson?
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He says he was devastated by it.
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Well, he talked about his plastic surgery
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and how he still invites
little children to sleep in his bed.
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{\an8}Of course, I tuned in.
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{\an8}My husband and I were watching, rapt.
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{\an8}And then I saw that boy
sitting on the sofa next to him
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{\an8}holding Jackson's hand,
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{\an8}putting his head on his shoulder,
looking up at him dreamily.
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{\an8}And I looked at my husband,
and I said, "Uh-oh."
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{\an8}I thought, "Here we go again."
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It drew me right back in to a story
that I had done ten years earlier.
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[unsettling music playing]
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The boy's name was Jordy Chandler.
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It never came to trial.
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Michael Jackson settled with the family
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for about $20 million.
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I suppose the problem for many people
is what happened in 1993,
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or what didn't happen.
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What didn't happen.
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"Nothing ever happened." It was a mantra.
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"Nothing ever happened."
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And I thought to myself…
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"Maybe it did."
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[Martin on TV] The reason that's been
given for why you didn't go to jail
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was because you reached
a financial settlement with the family.
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Yeah.
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I don't want to do a long,
drawn-out thing on TV like OJ.
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I want to go on with my life.
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[Diane] Here it was, in my face again,
all those years later,
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and I couldn't ignore it.
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You can't ignore it.
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[unsettling music continues]
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[man] I just remember watching
the documentary with the Jackson family.
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{\an8}And they were shocked.
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And Michael, he called his mom,
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and her whole demeanor changed.
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Like, all she could say was,
"They set him up. They set him up."
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[man 1 on TV]
Devastated and utterly betrayed.
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A gross distortion of the truth
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and a tawdry attempt to misrepresent
his life and his abilities as a father.
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That's the star's reaction
to Living with Michael Jackson.
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[Randy] People thought something's
going on with Michael and this kid
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because of what we saw on TV.
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But Michael was determined
and ready to fight.
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Raymone Bain
is Michael Jackson's spokesperson.
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Ms. Bain, good morning to you.
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Good morning. How are you?
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{\an8}Well, I've been, uh, very blessed
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because I worked with Muhammad Ali,
Boyz II Men, Serena Williams…
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And it was through Serena
recommending me to Michael Jackson
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that I began working for Michael Jackson.
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I thought that the Bashir documentary
was outrageous.
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It was a "I got you" kind of thing.
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After that, Michael was guilty
until found innocent.
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And I asked him point-blank,
looking dead in his face,
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"Did you do this?"
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And I was convinced when he told me no
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because had he told me yes,
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or had I thought that he was guilty
of molesting children,
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I wouldn't have represented him.
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One of the things
that I was concerned about,
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it was just uncontrollable.
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When you are bigger than life,
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which he was,
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nothing goes unreported.
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And there were some during that time
to make sure everything was reported.
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[Diane] I got on the line to all
my best sources within law enforcement
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to try to find out who this kid
in the Bashir documentary was.
337
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They said his name is Gavin.
That's all I know.
338
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[pensive music playing]
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[man] Everyone is saying,
"Who is the kid?"
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It's a bit like there's blood in the water
and the sharks are hungry.
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{\an8}And we were some of those sharks.
We were circling.
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{\an8}We were circling Neverland
to find that kid.
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You've got to remember how many people
are employed at Neverland.
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You've got people shoveling giraffe shit.
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You've got fairground workers.
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There's so many sources there.
There's so many employees.
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You know, we're… we're paying a few.
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[ominous music playing]
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It doesn't take long to get the name.
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The boy's surname was Arvizo.
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Gavin Arvizo.
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The difficulty, of course,
is you're dealing with a child,
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so we're going after the family.
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The dad, David Arvizo, we found him.
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The dad was ostracized from the family.
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So you've got a financially needy family
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whose head could be turned
by a large check.
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But in the case of the Arvizos,
they weren't selling their story.
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They never went for the money.
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There was a story to be had.
We just couldn't get it.
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[ominous music continues]
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[woman] A few years
prior to the documentary,
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I met the Arvizo family
at the Laugh Factory.
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{\an8}And Gavin was a really funny,
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{\an8}bright, sparkly kid.
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They were living in what you would call
a bachelor apartment. It was one room.
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They had mattresses on the floor.
368
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They had sheets
strung up for some privacy.
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Janet was a good mom.
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I found her to be childlike
in her enthusiasm for everything.
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And then one day, I get a phone call
from Janet, and she's screaming,
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"Gavin has cancer."
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[poignant music playing]
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As soon as I could,
I went down to the hospital.
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He was at Kaiser in Hollywood.
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They were going to try everything,
but the likelihood was that he would die.
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I would visit him frequently
at the hospital.
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He lost all his hair.
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He… He couldn't eat.
He was just rocking and moaning.
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One day, I walked into Gavin's room,
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and there was
a specially large gift basket.
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It was the size of half the room.
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I said, "Hey, Gav,
you know, who sent you that?"
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And he just said, "Michael."
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And I said, "Michael who?"
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"Michael Jackson."
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Okay, cool.
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I just sort of accepted it
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because we've all seen him
visiting all of these sick children
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and needy children.
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[women yell enthusiastically]
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Children will always
hold a special place in my heart.
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[children clamoring]
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[Louise] You'd just see a row of kids,
and Michael Jackson in the center.
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{\an8}[woman on TV] Michael Jackson
was a modern-day Pied Piper to children.
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{\an8}He did tell me the children
coming to Neverland lifted his spirits.
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{\an8}[Louise] A few months later,
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{\an8}Janet called me
and told me they had been to Neverland.
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{\an8}And she told me how wonderful Michael was.
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{\an8}And I thought that he was dying,
and why shouldn't he go enjoy Neverland?
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Well, way later, when I watched
the Martin Bashir documentary,
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my heart sank.
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I just immediately thought,
"The press is gonna hound these people."
404
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,200
I did not want them in this whirlwind.
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I called Janet, I called Janet's mom,
406
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and every number I called
was disconnected.
407
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Their phones being disconnected
I found very alarming.
408
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[music fades]
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I didn't know their whereabouts.
I didn't know if they were safe.
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[ominous music playing]
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[man] I just had graduated college.
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{\an8}I was very excited to work
in the entertainment industry
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{\an8}and for Michael Jackson.
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When I arrived in Los Angeles,
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I walked into a very busy house,
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comparable to, like,
walking into, like, a busy newsroom.
417
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People running around,
phones ringing off the hook.
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The media agencies were calling nonstop.
419
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:09,360
So I walk into this damage control,
and then they said,
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"You're gonna take care
of the Arvizo family."
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00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:16,240
The media wanted answers
after the fallout of the Bashir special.
422
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:20,840
Michael graciously opened up his arms
and allowed the Arvizos back to the ranch.
423
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So they were
weathering the storm at Neverland.
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[music crescendos, fades]
425
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These photos are from the ranch.
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I've kept them for the last 20 years.
427
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,080
This is Gavin's mother, Janet Arvizo.
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{\an8}She writes, "Dearest loving Michael,
we appreciate you being our family."
429
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{\an8}"What God brings together,
no man can undo."
430
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{\an8}"We love you."
431
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,400
[unsettling music playing]
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This is Star Arvizo, Gavin's brother.
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{\an8}"I love you, my daddy Michael.
Your son, Blowhole."
434
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,880
These are the nicknames that Michael
would give these… these young boys.
435
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,600
There was individuals in the media
436
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,640
questioning Michael's relationship
with children.
437
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:22,920
So the Jackson camp felt a need to hire
a criminal defense attorney, Mark Geragos,
438
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to look over the legal aspects of this.
439
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,280
[man] I had received a call
440
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from a gentleman
who was representing Michael.
441
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And he asked if I would
meet Michael at Neverland.
442
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,200
{\an8}The DNA of being a criminal defense lawyer
443
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{\an8}is you're always thinking about
the worst that can happen.
444
00:23:47,120 --> 00:23:52,680
I realized that this is not just
a reputation management issue.
445
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,200
This is potentially criminal exposure.
446
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,720
- And that is a problem.
- [ominous music playing]
447
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,440
I saw that this was red meat
448
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:08,200
for a prosecutor who was determined
to take down Michael.
449
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,120
The Jackson associates
decided to make a video.
450
00:24:13,120 --> 00:24:16,840
Janet Arvizo and family was to be filmed,
451
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:21,800
providing truthful statements regarding
Michael Jackson and their relationship,
452
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and more importantly,
Gavin's relationship with Michael Jackson.
453
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,520
{\an8}Wait, you know how these Bashir…
454
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{\an8}Hey, you know how Bashir
zoomed in on him holding hands?
455
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{\an8}- Do that, the same thing.
- 'Cause you know how…
456
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,680
{\an8}Because that's what a mother
or a father does with a son.
457
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,760
{\an8}And I feel that Janet, in front of me,
while I was watching,
458
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,560
gave her side of the truth
459
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,800
about her relationship
with Michael Jackson
460
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,200
that was not scripted.
461
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:52,640
{\an8}When I would tell him,
462
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{\an8}"The doctors are saying
there's no chance,"
463
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,480
{\an8}Michael said, "I will not have that."
464
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:01,280
{\an8}"You bring him to me,
and we will coat him with love."
465
00:25:01,360 --> 00:25:04,640
{\an8}We may be broken. Michael fixed us.
466
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,880
{\an8}[Vincent] I physically watched
and believed her responses to be true,
467
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,960
and nothing ever occurred
untoward to them by Michael Jackson.
468
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:17,560
{\an8}When I first met Michael, all I thought
was he was a loving, kind, humble man.
469
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,480
{\an8}And… and all he wanted to do was good.
470
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,600
{\an8}[Mark] This video is an insurance policy
471
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should the Arvizo family
make an allegation against Michael.
472
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,200
If somebody's on the stand
and they say something,
473
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you could have a snippet ready
on video and show a jury.
474
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"Well, you said that then
and this is now."
475
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:41,680
And then that forces the witness
to have to explain themselves.
476
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,160
I believe Michael
didn't trust this family.
477
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:50,280
{\an8}So they had a private detective
watching over the Arvizo family.
478
00:25:50,360 --> 00:25:52,640
I received a phone call from Janet.
479
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,480
{\an8}She was panicky and whispery,
480
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,760
{\an8}and she was saying,
"They're listening to everything I say."
481
00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,640
{\an8}"I can't talk very long."
482
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,640
She really wanted to leave Neverland,
but she was being told,
483
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,520
"We're trying to keep you safe.
You need to stay here."
484
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,320
But she just felt like something was off.
485
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,760
{\an8}Janet called a good friend and said,
"Do you know of any lawyers?"
486
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,800
{\an8}He recommended a lawyer who watched
the Martin Bashir documentary and said,
487
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,080
"These children
need to speak to a psychologist."
488
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,160
[ominous music playing]
489
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,320
[man] The children,
particularly Gavin and Star,
490
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,120
I think really loved Michael Jackson.
491
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,200
{\an8}I think that he was very important
492
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:34,120
{\an8}at a time when there was chaos
in their life, economic, medical.
493
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:39,840
And I think both Star and Gavin
looked to him for some stability.
494
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,800
It was very shocking to me
when I learned about his experiences
495
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,480
and his familiarity with Michael Jackson.
496
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,280
I felt like the boys were credible,
497
00:26:52,360 --> 00:26:56,760
and I felt there was enough information
for me to reasonably suspect
498
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,760
Gavin had been the victim
of child sexual abuse.
499
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,560
And in the State of California,
health professionals in general,
500
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,240
if you have a reasonable suspicion,
you must, under penalty of law,
501
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,360
make a report
to the appropriate authorities.
502
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,040
[ominous music continues]
503
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,320
[Ron] At the time, I was prosecuting
predominantly sex crimes.
504
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,240
I was one of the few men
who actually did that,
505
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:21,680
{\an8}and did a lot of them.
506
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,600
{\an8}Rape cases, child molest cases,
507
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,520
{\an8}crimes against women,
crimes against children.
508
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,200
That became one of my specialties.
509
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,240
And I got a call
from the district attorney,
510
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,280
and I went down to his office,
and he handed me a report.
511
00:27:35,360 --> 00:27:39,720
And it took a moment before I finally
saw the name Michael Jackson.
512
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,680
The most recognizable person in the world.
513
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,240
[music fades]
514
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:48,840
But to find out, is there
a credible accusation of sexual abuse,
515
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:53,080
{\an8}almost always the first thing
detectives do is interview the child.
516
00:27:55,120 --> 00:27:56,440
[officer] Okay, we're rolling.
517
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,560
You need to sit right there, buddy.
518
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,040
[unsettling music playing]
519
00:28:04,120 --> 00:28:05,440
How long is it going to take?
520
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,800
[officer] Well, as far as how fast
you answer our questions
521
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,880
and how you feel and all that stuff.
522
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:12,360
Rolling.
523
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,520
So he grabbed me.
524
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,280
- [officer] He grabbed you?
- Yeah.
525
00:28:20,360 --> 00:28:21,840
[officer] Where did he grab you at?
526
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:23,840
Private area.
527
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,680
[officer] He grabbed you
in your private area?
528
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,240
Where were you at when this happened?
529
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:29,360
On his bed.
530
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:30,880
[officer] In bed?
531
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,720
Were you lying in bed
or were you sitting on the bed?
532
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,320
I was lying on his bed,
and we were talking.
533
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,880
[officer] And did you
have clothes on or off?
534
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:40,560
On?
535
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,840
- Yeah. I had his pajamas.
- [officer] Okay.
536
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,200
And what did he end up doing?
537
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:48,640
He told me…
538
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:52,800
'cause he said
539
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,840
that if I knew how to do it and he said…
540
00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,360
And if I don't, he'll do it for me.
541
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,880
So he started…
542
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,160
[officer] Speak up a little bit.
I can't hear you, buddy.
543
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:06,440
I know it's hard.
544
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:10,840
[Ron] You can expect to see a child
who's talking about a subject matter
545
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,720
that's difficult to talk about.
546
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,240
Life is so much easier if you just say,
"Nothing happened."
547
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:17,680
And the questions stop.
548
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,080
[unsettling music continues]
549
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,640
You watch kids,
they just sit there and implode.
550
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,400
Not explode, implode.
551
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,480
They sort of shrink into themselves.
552
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,280
Their shoulders come in,
their head drops down.
553
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,080
It's as if they're trying
to disappear into the floor.
554
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,120
[officer] And what did he do next?
555
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,520
He started masturbating me.
556
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:37,240
[officer] Okay.
557
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:43,080
Then… [sniffles] …after a while,
I told him I didn't want him to do that.
558
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:44,200
[officer] Did he stop?
559
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:45,560
I told him no.
560
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,400
He kept on doing it.
561
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,520
I told him… He kept saying that
562
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,440
he wants to teach me, and…
563
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,520
I told him… I told him no.
564
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,160
[Ron] At some point after the release
of the Martin Bashir documentary,
565
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,880
Michael Jackson had sexually abused Gavin.
566
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,400
That's what Gavin told us,
and we believed him.
567
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,800
What I saw, I thought,
was a very typical interview
568
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,160
of a child
who had experienced sexual abuse.
569
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:13,680
[officer] Was there anything else
570
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,920
where you had seen naked pictures
or naked women before?
571
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,440
Both being with Michael?
572
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:19,360
Yeah.
573
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:20,640
[officer] Where was that at?
574
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,480
He had a black suitcase.
575
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:28,200
He said, there's a black suitcase,
and it's full of, like, naked pictures
576
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:29,960
and magazines of women.
577
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:30,880
[officer] Of women?
578
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,160
And girls.
579
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:33,400
[officer] Did you see them?
580
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:35,520
He showed it to me.
581
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,200
[officer] I really am
very proud of you, Gavin.
582
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,400
I'm very proud of you.
583
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:46,200
[Stan] I learned that both Star and Gavin
had been shown pornography.
584
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,720
Star told me that he had
seen Michael put alcohol
585
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,720
{\an8}into soda cans,
586
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,400
{\an8}called it Jesus Juice.
587
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,840
Gavin told me
that he had Jesus Juice on planes.
588
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,800
Gavin told me he had Jesus Juice
in Michael Jackson's room.
589
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,320
[Ron] When you're prosecuting a case
involving a crime against a child,
590
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,920
you rarely have witnesses to it.
591
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,840
So we want to see if we can corroborate
what Gavin had told us
592
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,720
about what was going on
in Neverland with Michael Jackson.
593
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,360
And that included executing
a search warrant on his property.
594
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,800
[ominous music playing]
595
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,200
[news theme plays]
596
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,280
This is a Fox News alert.
597
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,680
A search warrant
has been issued and executed
598
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,600
by the Santa Barbara County Police.
599
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,280
[tense music playing]
600
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:38,080
Dozens of investigators are swarming
Michael Jackson's ranch in California,
601
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:43,200
looking for evidence in what is being
called an ongoing criminal investigation.
602
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,640
{\an8}- [sheriff 1] What's all this shit here?
- [sheriff 2] That's a filming crew.
603
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,320
{\an8}- Yeah, definitely.
- [sheriff 1] Damn it.
604
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:51,840
{\an8}They're taking pictures.
605
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,880
{\an8}[tense music continues]
606
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,120
{\an8}[indistinct police chatter]
607
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,080
[sheriff 2] Okay, well,
let's do our checks.
608
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,040
You don't have a job
until we secure this house.
609
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,480
[Ron] If we think
that we have a good chance
610
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,080
of being able to get a conviction
on this case, then we should do it.
611
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,160
We shouldn't not do it
because he's a celebrity.
612
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,360
[sheriff 1] Search warrant.
613
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,640
[tense music continues]
614
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,200
[woman on TV] Right now,
Target Neverland is underway.
615
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:34,200
As many as 60 investigators are inside
at this point, searching the ranch.
616
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,800
To my left, you'll see the mass
of media from all over the world here.
617
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,440
It goes down about a quarter mile…
618
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:44,240
[Ron] We had a very realistic
understanding of what was going to happen.
619
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,160
The constant presence of the press.
620
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,760
It never crossed our mind
that that would be a reason
621
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,880
that we wouldn't
prosecute Michael Jackson.
622
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:56,280
We knew what it would mean
nationally and even internationally.
623
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,560
Those investigators
are still on the scene.
624
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:03,040
Somebody very close to this investigation
says it does involve child molestation.
625
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,120
[tense music continues]
626
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,440
[Vincent] I was at home.
627
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,760
All of a sudden, there's a news flash.
628
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,520
There was a raid at Neverland.
629
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,320
I almost dropped to the floor.
630
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:18,360
I knew inherently
that this was the Arvizo family.
631
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,680
How could they accuse Michael
of molesting their child?
632
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,120
I wholeheartedly
believed in his innocence.
633
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:30,680
I felt that it just
didn't make logical sense
634
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,840
that Michael would harm a child
635
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,400
after the deposition
636
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:40,000
and the family
speaking so positively of him.
637
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:41,640
{\an8}[sheriff 2] No surprises?
638
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,000
{\an8}[man] No surprises.
639
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:45,840
{\an8}This goes right in here.
640
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,920
{\an8}Right now, I put some…
641
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,000
{\an8}luggage one of the guests…
642
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,360
{\an8}[sheriff 2] We're going this way?
643
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:56,000
{\an8}[Ron] We want to see if we can corroborate
what Gavin had told us.
644
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,680
{\an8}Where the stairway is…
645
00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:58,680
{\an8}[sheriff 2] Okay.
646
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,960
{\an8}- Go ahead, Curtis.
- [sheriff 1] Sheriff's Department.
647
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,440
- [sheriff 2] You have another light?
- [sheriff 1] No.
648
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:06,920
[Ron] Where the bed is.
649
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,160
[tense music continues]
650
00:34:08,240 --> 00:34:12,720
I knew that in Jackson's interview
in the documentary by Martin Bashir,
651
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,800
he was saying, "These kids,
they want to stay in my bed."
652
00:34:17,720 --> 00:34:20,960
[Michael] When you say bed,
you're thinking sexual.
653
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:25,520
They make that sexual. It's not sexual.
We're going to sleep. I tuck them in.
654
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,360
I put a little, like, music on,
655
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,840
do a little story time, I read a book.
I give them hot milk.
656
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,360
You know, we have little cookies.
It's very charming.
657
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:35,720
Very sweet.
658
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:40,480
We want to see if there was the briefcase
that Gavin said existed in the bedroom
659
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,320
that had all of the pornography in it.
660
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,440
[music intensifies]
661
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,080
Yes, we found the briefcase.
662
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,960
Yes, it was the same color.
Yes, it had pornography in it.
663
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,560
{\an8}[unsettling music playing]
664
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,880
[sheriff 2] When's Mr. Jackson
gonna be back?
665
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,240
You don't know.
666
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,360
[sheriff 1] Hey,
how come the fireplace is on?
667
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,640
[sheriff 2] Jose turned it on yesterday.
I asked the same.
668
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,600
[Diane] I stood outside Neverland
for hours and hours and hours that day,
669
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,960
watching whether or not they're gonna
bring Michael Jackson out.
670
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,040
He's not there.
671
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:20,000
The sheriff's office, all they have said
is that this is a property search,
672
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,800
an ongoing investigation,
673
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,080
and tomorrow morning
at about eleven o'clock,
674
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,480
we'll have a news conference
with both the DA and the sheriff.
675
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,040
- [man 1] Okay. We're 30 seconds.
- [reporters murmuring]
676
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,520
[tense, pensive music playing]
677
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,720
The basis for this investigation
regarding Mr. Jackson
678
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,280
involves allegations of child molestation,
679
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,680
288A of the California Penal Code.
680
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:46,640
Additionally, an arrest warrant
for Mr. Jackson has been issued
681
00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:49,560
on multiple counts of child molestation.
682
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,000
For years, pop star Michael Jackson
683
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,320
has denied having
inappropriate contact with children,
684
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,400
and he has never been charged.
685
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,000
But tonight, Jackson is wanted by police.
686
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,440
[man 2] Jackson could be a flight risk.
Could he be a flight risk?
687
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:08,320
There's always that potential,
but we are pursuing the arrest warrant.
688
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:09,800
[man 3] Do you know where he is now?
689
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,320
- No.
- [spokesman] No, we do not.
690
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,000
Ask Diane. She knows everything
about Michael Jackson.
691
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:18,640
[Diane] I already had this history,
this knowledge, this source base.
692
00:36:18,720 --> 00:36:22,200
And they were calling me, these sources,
as often as I was calling them.
693
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,600
Every hour, I was finding out
more and more things,
694
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,880
and I get some real hard facts.
695
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,080
I came to discover that Michael Jackson
was not at Neverland,
696
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,200
but somewhere in Las Vegas.
697
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,280
[ominous music playing]
698
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,080
[man] The 45-year-old's whereabouts
are a mystery.
699
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,520
{\an8}Some say he's been at the Four Seasons.
700
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:47,960
{\an8}Others say up the Strip at The Mirage,
where he reportedly owns a villa.
701
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,760
And still others say,
"No, he last stayed here at the Bellagio."
702
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,800
Fact is, it seems nobody in this town
knows where Michael Jackson last stayed,
703
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,680
let alone where he is tonight.
704
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,880
[Kevin] We're outside Neverland,
we're in Vegas,
705
00:36:59,960 --> 00:37:01,720
we've got people stationed everywhere.
706
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,200
And it's a bit embarrassing
that we don't know where he is right now.
707
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:06,480
[ominous music continues]
708
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,560
[Brian] Those of us
who know Michael, we think…
709
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:10,840
I think the world of him,
710
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,960
and I just cannot fathom
that this would be true.
711
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,480
At the time,
Michael wasn't talking to nobody.
712
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,040
He was hoping
that the furor would go away.
713
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,640
Mrs. Jackson had a theory about life.
714
00:37:22,720 --> 00:37:27,240
If you ducked and covered enough,
the storm would pass you by.
715
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,280
And Michael practiced that very carefully.
716
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,720
[Diane] I find out from a source,
he's holed up in this villa,
717
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:40,960
and he only opens the door wearing
a colorful dashiki muumuu garment,
718
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,480
only enough to get the food brought in,
and then he slams the door.
719
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,880
And he's having wild parties.
720
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:51,400
There were cigarette burns
in the leather couches and chairs.
721
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,720
There were food containers everywhere.
722
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,120
There were empty liquor bottles
on every table.
723
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,680
And this is where Michael Jackson
had been for several days,
724
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:05,960
entertaining young teenage boys
who all spoke German.
725
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,720
And he said, after the raid,
Michael Jackson was informed,
726
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,680
"Oh my God,
the cops are at Neverland again."
727
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,080
And he left just like that.
728
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,160
[ominous music continues]
729
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,080
[Diane] Michael Jackson remains
a wanted man this morning,
730
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,640
and everyone's waiting
to see when he'll turn himself in.
731
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,680
Jackson's spokesman says
the singer will return to Santa Barbara
732
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:34,040
to confront and prove
that the charges are unfounded.
733
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,600
We have to go.
My producer's telling me we have to go.
734
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,200
The next thing I hear,
Michael Jackson negotiates
735
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,440
with the district attorney's office
736
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,520
as to the "surrender."
737
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,600
[tense music playing]
738
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,880
[man] We were hearing that this aircraft
739
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,800
may be connected
with Michael Jackson's arrival.
740
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,640
He is rolling out right now
on runway seven.
741
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,840
{\an8}[Diane] He flew in in a private jet,
742
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,240
{\an8}into a hangar in Santa Barbara,
743
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,600
{\an8}and my sources were telling me
744
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:13,040
{\an8}he voluntarily flew there to surrender.
745
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,480
They put the handcuffs on him
and put him in a car.
746
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:22,960
That car was also outfitted with audio.
747
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:23,880
[man 1] Okay.
748
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,720
[Michael] Can we put some air on, please?
749
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:26,720
[man 1] Okay.
750
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,320
[man 2] That okay for you, Mr. Jackson?
751
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,960
[Michael] It's wonderful. Thank you.
Thank you very much.
752
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:36,640
[Diane] They did not want
any false reports of police brutality.
753
00:39:36,720 --> 00:39:39,720
- [protesters yelling indistinctly]
- [tense music continues]
754
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,120
[man 1] Coming in the back.
755
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:44,240
[man 2] The back.
756
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,160
[man 1] He's coming in.
757
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,600
[man 3] It's the car starting to pull
into the sally port area.
758
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,080
[speaking indistinctly]
759
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,000
[Michael] They hurt.
They're tight, aren't they?
760
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,320
[man 2] Just, if you want
to scoot forward a little bit.
761
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,040
There you go.
762
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,840
[man 3] All right,
somebody's coming out of the vehicle now.
763
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,520
[Diane] There he is. It's Michael Jackson.
764
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:10,320
He's in handcuffs.
765
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,120
- [man 3] I believe he's in handcuffs.
- [Diane] Mike, he's in handcuffs.
766
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:14,240
[man 3] Yes.
767
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,440
[man 4] So after that 24-hour mystery
about his whereabouts,
768
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:21,640
Michael Jackson has now surrendered
into police custody behind me.
769
00:40:21,720 --> 00:40:25,200
A crushing humiliation
for one of the world's great entertainers,
770
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:29,680
right now being read those charges
of child molestation.
771
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,720
Minutes are ticking by.
I'm still live on the air.
772
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,880
I'm thinking, "Is he going to be booked,
fingerprinted, mugshot?"
773
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:38,760
"What happens next?"
774
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,520
And then it popped up
in my monitor. [gasps]
775
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:44,600
And I was stunned.
776
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,400
I'm live on the air,
so I have to be careful what I say.
777
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:52,120
I thought, number one, he looks so pale.
778
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:56,640
It looked ghoulish.
It looked like a deer in the headlights.
779
00:40:56,720 --> 00:40:58,400
I almost felt sorry for him.
780
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,280
When I saw him with his hands cuffed,
781
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:03,840
and then that mugshot,
782
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,840
I realized this is not
just at the allegation stage anymore.
783
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:12,200
Michael Jackson is now
in the American criminal justice system.
784
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:13,240
He's in the system.
785
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,480
And the system
was not going to let him go,
786
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:20,720
and my sources were telling me
there was going to be a criminal trial.
787
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,160
[ominous music playing]
788
00:41:22,240 --> 00:41:25,320
[man] Seven counts of lewd
and lascivious acts against a child
789
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:29,400
with the intent of arousing,
appealing to, and gratifying the lust,
790
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,480
passions, and sexual desires
of Jackson and the child,
791
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,600
and two counts of administering
an intoxicating agent,
792
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,040
reportedly alcohol,
793
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,560
with the intent
of committing child molestation.
794
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:45,480
[Mark] He's come back specifically
to confront these charges head-on.
795
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:51,000
He is greatly outraged
by the bringing of these charges.
796
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,920
Uh, he considers this to be a big lie.
797
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,040
He was enormously stressed.
798
00:41:56,120 --> 00:42:02,600
{\an8}All of a sudden, there is a reality
to what has been theoretical.
799
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,600
[ominous music continues]
800
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,160
I watched him just disintegrate.
801
00:42:07,240 --> 00:42:08,880
Literally disintegrate.
802
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:16,800
The ingestion of substances
was just astronomical.
803
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,480
There was a time when I actually saw him
in the fetal position on the floor,
804
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,840
and I thought, "What do we do?"
805
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:28,560
I mean, you don't want his death
to be on your hands
806
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,120
because you took some inaction.
807
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:38,880
It was a horrific time for him
and for those around him,
808
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,800
and we had genuine concerns as to whether
809
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,600
he could even withstand a trial
physically, mentally.
810
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,280
[ominous music continues]
811
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:54,000
{\an8}Michael is hearing all of these heinous
accusations on a day-to-day basis,
812
00:42:54,080 --> 00:43:00,600
{\an8}and he's wanting people to step up and say
that's not true, and to defend him more.
813
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,320
{\an8}[Joe] We know our son.
814
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:06,640
{\an8}We know that he's not a pedophile
like some of these newscasters are saying.
815
00:43:06,720 --> 00:43:08,360
{\an8}This is ridiculous.
816
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:12,360
{\an8}We have a lot of wicked people out there,
and they know what they're doing.
817
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,920
[Raymone] Michael is saying,
"What is this obsession with me?"
818
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,440
"Why am I a target?"
819
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:25,320
It seemed to me that there was
a deliberate attempt to try to get him.
820
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,560
{\an8}It is racism. It is.
821
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,160
{\an8}Katherine's not going to say it,
but I will say it.
822
00:43:30,240 --> 00:43:31,760
{\an8}It is racism.
823
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,800
[Stacy] When the charges
were announced against Michael,
824
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,200
of course, the family,
they were heartsick.
825
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:41,840
{\an8}But for Michael's siblings, it was never
about guilt or innocence for them.
826
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,360
{\an8}It was about legacy.
827
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,680
"They can't do this to us.
They want to destroy what we built."
828
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,440
It's what I kept hearing
over and over again.
829
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,920
We are the Jacksons,
as Randy Jackson would say, you know,
830
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,080
"We're royalty. We're the Black Kennedys."
831
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:57,680
[tense music playing]
832
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,800
My mother, my father,
my sisters, my brothers
833
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:05,160
are overwhelmed at the outpouring
of the support from the fans,
834
00:44:05,240 --> 00:44:08,200
both here in the United States
and all around the world.
835
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,760
It was all about the brand.
836
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,440
Michael Jackson, the brand.
837
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:16,720
The Jacksons, the brand.
We've got to protect the brand.
838
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,240
Thank you very much.
That's all I've got to say.
839
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,280
[Stacy] I remember Jermaine calling me up
and says, "Guess what?"
840
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:27,920
"You know, Michael says, when the trial
is over, we're going to go on tour again."
841
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,320
And I got to realize that
that's what this was really about for--
842
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:32,720
At least for Jermaine.
843
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,200
We've got to support him
because he's got to come through this,
844
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,880
he's got to beat these charges so they can
make more music and go out on tour.
845
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,400
He's innocent.
And he knows that. We know that.
846
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,880
And the public knows that too.
847
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:48,280
He's innocent.
848
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,720
{\an8}Our response is, here we go again.
849
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,640
{\an8}Michael has 24-hour-a-day
supervision with him
850
00:44:53,720 --> 00:44:57,600
{\an8}for the specific purpose of protecting him
against these kinds of claims.
851
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,520
{\an8}Did he want to have children around him?
852
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,960
{\an8}Yes, he did. No question about it.
853
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,680
But to groom children for molestation?
854
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,480
What, he was the wicked witch
in Hansel and Gretel?
855
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:11,800
How nonsensical.
856
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:16,360
Michael Jackson was the biggest superstar
857
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,240
in the history
of the country and the world.
858
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:23,040
Adults would get into Michael's presence,
and they were all atwitter,
859
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,000
and it was impossible for him to function.
860
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,560
But with children, they didn't care.
861
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,200
He was just one of the guys.
862
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,080
And that's why he liked
being with children.
863
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,160
- [crowd clamoring]
- [unsettling music playing]
864
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:43,280
I remember on the day of the arraignment,
I'd never seen anything like it.
865
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,480
Michael Jackson presents himself in court,
866
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,720
and the formal charges
are read against him.
867
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:55,400
I knew we were watching
the potential demise of a superstar.
868
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,240
- [music turns tense]
- [crowd clamoring]
869
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,080
- [woman] Michael.
- [man] Michael.
870
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,160
He knows there are two
parallel battles underway.
871
00:46:03,240 --> 00:46:06,760
There is the legal battle underway
inside that courtroom,
872
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,520
and then there is
the public relations skirmish
873
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,440
that is also underway.
874
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:12,720
[girls chanting] Michael!
875
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,800
[Stacy] Michael had
an entire army with him.
876
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:17,200
The huge crowd there.
877
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:21,440
News stations take this garbage
and then report it as fact?
878
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,640
- You should be ashamed of yourselves!
- [man] Ashamed.
879
00:46:23,720 --> 00:46:24,720
[women whoop]
880
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:26,040
[girls chanting] Michael!
881
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:30,120
I believe he's 100% innocent, and I don't
think he would do something like this.
882
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:31,920
He doesn't have the heart to do it.
883
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,000
We believe in his innocence,
and we're supporting him all the way,
884
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:36,600
and we're thinking about him,
885
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,600
and we're going to be here for him.
886
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,320
- What do we want?
- [crowd] Justice!
887
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,480
{\an8}- When do we want it? Now!
- [crowd] Now!
888
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,280
[Stacy] I'll never forget Bob Jones,
889
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:48,600
Michael's longtime manager,
and I were standing next to Michael.
890
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,720
And Bob had his back to him.
891
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,160
And he says,
892
00:46:53,240 --> 00:46:57,200
"I know he's gonna do something crazy.
I just know he's going to."
893
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:58,600
[crowd screaming]
894
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:02,240
[woman] Oh my goodness, look at this.
He's jumping on top of the car.
895
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:06,160
- [man] Oh yeah, we see him.
- [woman] Truly performing for his fans.
896
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,400
I remember looking up, kind of gobsmacked,
897
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,680
and I thought he was
gonna start moonwalking.
898
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,040
[crowd screaming]
899
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,640
[Mark] I was immensely impressed
900
00:47:17,720 --> 00:47:22,520
with the physicality
of hopping onto the top of an SUV
901
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,600
in the state or condition he was in.
902
00:47:25,240 --> 00:47:28,680
He's one of the greatest performers
of the century.
903
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:29,840
He can turn it on.
904
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:32,360
[Brian] He said,
905
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:36,080
"Brian, how do guilty people leave court?"
906
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,640
I said, "They kind of are embarrassed
and they hide."
907
00:47:38,720 --> 00:47:43,080
He says, "Yeah, they put their jacket
over their head, and they hide."
908
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,560
"How do innocent people
leave the courthouse?"
909
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,120
"They let the whole world see them."
910
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:55,120
"They stand tall, and they stand proud."
911
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,200
- [ominous music playing]
- [crowd screaming]
912
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:03,560
In his own inimical way,
913
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:07,680
Michael Jackson knew
how to tell the world he was innocent.
914
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,360
[unsettling music playing]
915
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,640
[Diane] I would not be surprised
if somewhere down the road,
916
00:48:17,720 --> 00:48:20,560
some of the people
surrounding Michael Jackson
917
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,680
{\an8}might have at least the threat
of charges against them,
918
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,640
{\an8}aiding, abetting, allowing children in,
919
00:48:26,720 --> 00:48:29,840
knowing full well
what the heck might happen.
920
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,520
[on recording] Hey, Vincent.
Sergeant Robel again.
921
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:33,720
I want to hear from you,
922
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,120
whether you want
to speak to me with your attorney.
923
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:40,400
Giving you the opportunity, bud,
because the ship is sinking pretty fast.
924
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,520
So, please, Vince, give me a buzz.
925
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:47,400
[Ron] You know, we knew that Vinny was
one of the people who was at Neverland
926
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,240
{\an8}and had an association with the kids
when they were there.
927
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:54,560
{\an8}So we were interested in talking to Vinny
to see if he could help us in any way
928
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,360
{\an8}in terms of what was going on
with the kids.
929
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:58,520
{\an8}I defended him.
930
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:01,480
{\an8}And I believed in his innocence.
931
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,520
{\an8}One of the reasons
was because of my friend Frank.
932
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,240
Michael was like a father to Frank.
933
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,640
Frank was a young child
when he met Michael,
934
00:49:11,720 --> 00:49:15,400
and he grew in the ranks,
and he became his personal assistant.
935
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:19,160
Basically anything Michael wanted,
he would have to do.
936
00:49:19,240 --> 00:49:22,960
Frank Tyson is thought to be
one of Jackson's closest friends.
937
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,480
They met when Tyson
was just five years old,
938
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,520
and he's admittedly
slept in Jackson's bed.
939
00:49:29,240 --> 00:49:31,960
[Vincent] I said, "Frank,
you're the closest person to Michael."
940
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:33,840
I said, "Is this true?"
941
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:39,320
{\an8}He's never given me an indication
that he is interested in boys
942
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,360
{\an8}or sexual attraction to boys.
943
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:42,320
{\an8}It's the opposite.
944
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,840
[Vincent] He told me, "No,
Michael would never do this with a child."
945
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:47,080
"I know Michael…
946
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:48,640
all my life."
947
00:49:48,720 --> 00:49:50,280
"He would never do this."
948
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:52,200
And I trusted Frank.
949
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:57,200
But they were raiding other Jackson
associates' houses and properties.
950
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:58,200
[sirens wailing]
951
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:03,280
Frank cleaned out his house of anything
that came from the Neverland Ranch.
952
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,400
And he hands me a Nike bag.
953
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,480
I took the bag, and, um, I'm driving home,
954
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,480
and I felt something's
a little suspicious.
955
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,920
And I said, you know,
"Let me take a look in this bag."
956
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,520
I start taking videos to document this.
957
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,640
[unsettling music playing]
958
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:33,400
I open the bag.
I start looking, and I see a magazine.
959
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:42,880
Start flipping through it…
960
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:53,000
and there was a Sharpie…
circles around the video ordering section.
961
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:57,440
Someone's wanted these videos,
circled the ones they want.
962
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,960
These videos,
which are children that are naked.
963
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,480
Some with family,
some just naked children.
964
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,360
[unsettling music continues]
965
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,360
I… I… I confronted Frank.
966
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,840
I said, you know,
"Frank, what is this magazine?"
967
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:12,720
I said, "Because, you know,
968
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,320
there's circles around
video with naked children."
969
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,240
He says, "That's just a phase
that Michael and I went through."
970
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,000
"You know, he circled
the videos he wanted, I ordered them,
971
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:22,760
and it was a phase we went through."
972
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:24,440
They watched them together.
973
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,160
When I heard that, I was in disbelief.
974
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:31,120
I was very upset.
975
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:39,040
My inclination was, after finding this
and sitting there thinking about it,
976
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:44,040
was that Frank is so close to Michael
that he's covering up for him.
977
00:51:45,720 --> 00:51:48,040
That was a defining moment for me.
978
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,720
That was the moment that hit me so hard
979
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:57,080
where I realized
that there's something going on here.
980
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,040
[unsettling music continues]
981
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,720
In the last few weeks, a large amount
of ugly, malicious information
982
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:04,720
has been released into the media about me.
983
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,960
I allowed a family to visit
and spend some time at Neverland.
984
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,240
Through the years,
I have helped thousands of children
985
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,160
who are ill or in distress.
986
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,080
Please keep an open mind
and let me have my day in court.
987
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:19,480
Thank you.
988
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,560
[pensive music playing]
989
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,280
[dramatic music playing]
990
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,360
[music fades]